Tiny Talks with Ash/ley Frenkel

Tiny Talks is an interview series with Tiny Spoon’s talented contributors. This week we spoke with Ash/ley Frenkel from our tenth issue.

Tiny Spoon: What kindles your creativity?

Ash/ley Frenkel: I love little moments: the sights, sounds, smells, textures and tastes of the everyday, of an intimate encounter, a meal, a memory. A playful exchange or a fun thought-provoking prompt or question also really get me going.

Tiny Spoon: Are there any artists/ heroines/ idols/ friends that you look up to?

Ash/ley Frenkel: I avoid having idols to avoid disappointment, but Anthony Bourdain’s deep sense of wonder, caustic wit, and appreciation for food as a vessel for community and culture is a combination that I don’t think I’ll ever quite get over.

Tiny Spoon: Are there any natural entities that move your work?

Ash/ley Frenkel: Things like love and lust and water and light, as cliché as it might sound, continually draw me in and remind me that we live in a moving fluctuating rhythmic world. This answer just makes me sound like a weird horny plant… but if the pot fits.

Tiny Spoon: We love insight into the creative process. Could you share what it is like for you, either with your work that appears in Tiny Spoon or in general?

Ash/ley Frenkel: For poetry, my notes app plays a not insignificant part, at least as a place for early ideas, to get things started. My journal also acts as a gathering place that I pull from. And I cannot understate the importance of cafes, especially for editing. Sitting in a café, setting that time aside and letting the small noises of the place and people lull me into rare focus, plus a little coffee and pastry, oh yeah.

Tiny Spoon: Do you have any current or future projects that you are working on that you would like to share?

Ash/ley Frenkel: I perpetually have too many ideas floating around and have a few ideas for zines that bridge writing, photography and collage in fun ways, but they’re very early on so that’s all I’ll say. I do plan to expand on the book I self-published last year and organize some sort of meal with performative and interactive elements, but that’s also very much in an ideation phase.

Tiny Spoon: What book, artwork, music, etc., would you recommend to others?

Ash/ley Frenkel: I hate recommending music to people, but as far as books go, I have many, many opinions. These are just some. There are always more:

  • Cooking as Though You Might Cook Again by Danny Licht
  • Bluets by Maggie Nelson
  • On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous by Ocean Vuong
  • The Book of Delights by Ross Gay
  • The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin
  • Xenogenesis Trilogy by Octavia Butler

As far as visual art goes, Pixy Liao is creating really compelling photography that takes collaboration and partnership and gender and fucks with it all in really exciting ways. And an oldie but a goodie, but if you haven’t done a close-up deep dive of the Garden of Earthly Delights by Hieronymus Bosch, you should consider it.

Tiny Spoon: Is there anything else you would like others to know about you, your creations, or beyond?

Ash/ley Frenkel: I love to bake and cook for people and I like to laugh a lot, snorting and all.

Tiny Spoon: Where can people learn more about what you do?

Ash/ley Frenkel: I am in deep need of a new website, but for now Instagram is the best place to catch me @cardamom.communion

Tiny Spoon: Do you have photographs or images you would like us to share?

Ash/ley Frenkel: Here’s a picture of the erotic garden, the chapbook/zine I self-published and handbound forty copies of in 2022. Inside are twenty poems inspired by different fruits and vegetables, with prompts for the reader to interact with and move through different facets of love, lust, and whatever falls in-between.

ISSUE 10 {BONUS} FEATURE: ALEXANDRACATALINA

Our Tiny Issue can only be so big, but our inbox is always full of experimental, inspiring work! These are some of our favorite pieces that made a splash — even if they didn’t make it into the printed edition.

“Offering 3 (black mountain) “

“Heart Opening”

“Rock Form 4”

Bio: alexandracatalina uses traditional silversmithing techniques combined with clay hand-building to make sculpture that evoke a landscape, in which the feeling, memories, shapes, and colors of a place are distilled into a type of totem: an object of beauty, mystery and silent power.

ISSUE 10 {BONUS} FEATURE: SHEE

Our Tiny Issue can only be so big, but our inbox is always full of experimental, inspiring work! These are some of our favorite pieces that made a splash — even if they didn’t make it into the printed edition.

“Whatever People Say I Am That’s What I’m Not n1”

“Whatever People Say I Am That’s What I’m Not n2”

Bio: Born in 1987 in São Paulo, Brazil, with a degree in Digital Design, Shee (Sheila Gomes) began her work in visual arts at the same year she graduated from college. Shee has been showcasing her work in a variety of exhibitions, collaborations and projects, with curated works featuring international books and magazines.

Meet our 2023 Spring Resident: Edythe Rodriguez!

Edythe Rodriguez is our May 2023 Tiny Spoon Resident! You can sign-up for her workshop here. We interviewed Edythe about her creative visions, inspirations, and writing tips!

Her LIVE, donation-based workshop, Actually, The Poems Keep the Score: Writing Memory, Family, and The Shifting Self, will be held on May 20th & 21st from 12-2 PM MST / 2-4 PM EST.

Workshop Summary: In this generative workshop, we’ll be writing/righting the past. Through childhood vignettes and investigating our complex family histories. By centering remembrance. By healing past our traumas and the people who handed them to us. We are unlocking and remaking memory. The workshop is donation-based, no one will be turn away. Donate on our website to register or send us an email: tinyspoonlitmag@gmail.com today!

TS: We love insight into the creative process. Could you share what it is like for you? Do you follow any rituals or creative exercises to spark your writing process?

Edythe: I love a good writer’s cliché. Small internet cafes, matcha lattes and a lit candle. I have a neo-soul writing playlist and everything. I think my favorite one is writing when I’m not supposed to be. When I’m up against a deadline or at work, I sneak off to write. My pen works better under pressure, sometimes.

TS: What inspired you to begin and maintain these practices?

Edythe: Writing (and reading) for me was always an escape from something else. I think that’s also why I wrote so much about world building and refuge. I use my poems to create safety and live in another moment when the current one doesn’t feel bearable.

TS: Does your writing intersect with other creative practices?

Edythe: I’d say it intersects with the idea of poet as witness and all the other art forms I get to admire. Going to museums. To art shows. To plant shops. Look at a pink princess philodendron and tell me you don’t want to write a poem about that. 

TS: If your work was a song, what would it be?

Edythe: Every song LaRussell ever made.

TS: Are there any artists/ heroines/ idols/ friends who have been influential to your work?

Edythe: Sonia Sanchez. Amos Wilson. Lucille Clifton. Shakeema Smalls. Marcus Garvey. Ashia Ajani. Amiri Baraka. Danez Smith. Tonya Foster. M. NourBese Philip.

TS: Are there any natural entities that move your work?

Edythe: I feel like spirit moves in my work. And it moves me to begin the work in the first place. I’m also a Virgo sun, Pisces moon, Leo Rising. Just enough earth to ground the work. enough water to put my heads in the cloud, to lose realism in service of the impossible. And enough fire to burn us all in the making.

TS: What is on your reading list this season?

Edythe: Concentrate by Courtney Faye Taylor, Heirloom by Ashia Ajani, and (I’m suuuper late to this beauty) The Sobbing School by Joshua Bennett.

TS: Can you share your philosophy on sustaining creative communities?

Edythe: This became my favorite part of being a writer and being able to grow a whole family from the page. Black women writers are truly my safe space and getting to commune with the people that I center in my work is so invaluable to me.

TS: What advice would you give to emerging writers?

Edythe: Read. Explore. Be inspired by your own small, everyday greatnesses. And advice is less valuable than you think. Be your own North Star. 

TS: What projects are you working on? Can we find you at any upcoming events, etc.?

Edythe:My chapbook We, the Spirits is forthcoming with Button Poetry at the end of this year / beginning of next so stay tuned for that! The best way to keep up with all my things is on Instagram @edythejai.

TS: Where can people learn more about what you do? (website, social media, etc., if you wish to share it) 

Edythe:
I’m on Instagram and Twitter at @edythejai and on my website www.edytherodriguez.com.

ISSUE 10 {BONUS} FEATURE: CAITLIN SMITH

Our Tiny Issue can only be so big, but our inbox is always full of experimental, inspiring work! These are some of our favorite pieces that made a splash — even if they didn’t make it into the printed edition.

“Catcalling is Not a Compliment”

“Untitled”

“Peony Pussy”

Bio: Caitlin is a multidisciplinary surrealist completing her master’s degree at the University of Sunderland.

Tiny Talks with E.A. Midnight

Tiny Talks is an interview series with Tiny Spoon’s talented contributors. This week we spoke with E.A. Midnight from our tenth issue.

Tiny Spoon: What kindles your creativity?

E.A. Midnight: The two things that primarily kindle my creativity would be music and my environment. Both of these things help create a safe place for me to write. I often feel like writing is exploring (or sometimes dredging up) challenging things inside me, so feeling protected is critical for creation.

Much of my writing is done with music on – sometimes carefully selected playlists and other times just kind of whatever is randomly on in the house. We have a record player and almost always have something (from Mars Volta to Blind Willie McTell to Yo Yo Ma) playing. I grew up in a musical family, so I can’t imagine a creative life that is separate from music. Often, it helps me tune out; kind of as if the music helps create a conduit between me and the work. It’s like this auditory safeness that surrounds me while I write, and that allows me to go deeper into searching, into creating, and into curating my writing.

The other big thing that helps me be creative is the space where I am when I am writing. I don’t have an office/studio or anything, but I do have a little desk in the bedroom with all my little tshatshkes, notebooks, and books. That is my favorite space to be creative. I hung this empty frame on the wall above the desk which serves as a reminder that writing is about looking through. I do a lot of my more structured creative writing there. Being tucked into that little nook helps me focus and remain motivated.

Sometimes I will be out on a hike or out climbing somewhere and an idea will hit me, so I always bring a little notebook with me wherever I go. Also, whenever I am out trail running, these wild thoughts and ideas will pop into my head, so I have learned to bring along a digital recorder just in case. These methods don’t always pan out, but it’s interesting to look back on all the same. Always have a way to capture what comes out of your head.  

Tiny Spoon: Are there any artists/ heroines/ idols/ friends that you look up to?

E.A. Midnight: Wow, yes, so many. The following authors all blow my mind with their writing and inspire me with the ways they transcend our understandings of reality. Here they are in no particular order: Sarah Veglahn, Samiya Bashir, Katie Jean Shinkle, Diana Khoi Nguyen, Amina Cain, Shira Erlichman, Han Kang, Teresa Carmody, Victoria Chang, Brittany Ackerman, Courtney Faye Taylor, Hillary Leftwich, Erika Wurth, Sarah Manguso, Eugenia Leigh, Jennifer Sperry Steinorth, Anne Carson, Kaia Solveig Preus, Piper J. Daniels, Claudia Rankine, Jes Davis, Joan Kwon Glass, Ariana Reines, Elvia Wilk, Heather Bartel, Layli Long Solider, Selah Saterstrom, Steven Dunn, Maggie Nelson, and many, many more.

Tiny Spoon: Are there any natural entities that move your work?

E.A. Midnight: I am drawn to large expanses. When I lived back east, it was the Atlantic Ocean. Now it’s the mountains. I love feeling small in the space of this world. I love being reminded that my time (and frankly, importance) is so tiny. Thinking like that helps release me from the performative dance that creating art can be. It takes some of the pressures of making “the right thing” away and lets me construct the thing as it needs to be. It allows me to just write.

In addition to moving my work, large expanses and nature appear quite heavily within my writing. I spend a fair amount of time outside, as it is a significant part of how I balance my mental landscape, and as such, I try to be aware of the natural environment and honor it within my work. My hybrid memoir manuscript, that I have been submitting to presses, looks at landscapes outside the body as a framework for understanding the ones within.

Tiny Spoon: We love insight into the creative process. Could you share what it is like for you, either with your work that appears in Tiny Spoon or in general?

E.A. Midnight: Thank you for asking about this. I am deeply honored that two of my poems, “mundane object: the faucet” and “mundane object: leftovers” appear in Issue 10.

“mundane object: the faucet” I wrote (the initial version) one night during the early days of the pandemic. Each day then was so slow, so horribly boring, and as such the passage of time was marked with very basic activities, like brushing my teeth. But because everything was so drilled down to silence and isolation, it was so easy to fixate on the details of each moment. Each activity opened up into either an adventure or a catacomb. I tried to tap into that with this piece. I focused on the hyper detail of everything that happened, that I was thinking about while brushing my teeth, that I saw. I wrote all of it down. Then I stepped away for awhile. When I returned to the piece, I began crossing out lines or words (I write everything on paper first) that felt redundant or unnecessary. What’s left is these bones. The bones are the most critical elements of what the piece is trying to tell. I sit with each line and think about what it is doing, what it is trying to say, and then add back in what it needs to be supported. Finally, I put the piece into the computer and began to play with the spacing and formatting. This aspect is really critical to the work. Sometimes I will get an idea of the formatting during the creation, and it will flow all over the page, but usually that happens once I see it on the screen, imagining it as a final object, seeing it become the fullest version of itself. For “mundane object: the faucet” I saw the movement of the words across the page like the spit dribbling from the mouth, the water flowing out of the faucet, the position of the body as it goes through cleaning motions. That movement of the words performing as a kind of choreography with the reader; I shift, you shift, I pause, you have room to move past me.

Occasionally, the work does not move. It instead roots. The dance “mundane object: leftovers” participates in with the reader is more sonic than physical. The blocked texture of the poem forces the narrator, the other person in the piece, and reader to stay in a tight box through the stream of consciousness event. The tight formatting makes you want to break out, get away, leave this experience – which you know is no good for you – but you don’t, the musicality of the lines keeps you in the repetitive hum, you stay stuck. I did follow my similar pattern of dredging it down to the bones, but other than that what I wrote in my notebook is fairly similar to how it exists now in Issue 10. I spent a fair amount of time reading this one aloud to ensure that the sonic flow worked. Sound patterns and how the sound of a word can create an emotional expression is something I am very much interested in literature, so I tried to honor that in this piece. For example, the soothing “lo” (pronounced L-uuh) sounds of “lovely” and lost” in the line “it is lovely to get lost in the lineage” draw the reader in and create a texture of safety. I also played a lot with repetition as a net to catch the reader in, to hold them in the poem; a sensation that might feel comfortably containing at first, quickly grows constrictive [I know, I know, I am playing with the sonic quality of the words even in this interview, I can’t help it]. In the line, “she washes her hands, her arms, her face” the repetition of “her” in this line (and the subsequent ones) pulls the reader in close to this woman, they become intimate and safe with her in the confined area of the empty restroom. That is of course until a few lines later, where she walks back to the table and is now being watched, the “her” moves from an intimate safety to performance and judgement.

Tiny Spoon: Do you have any current or future projects that you are working on that you would like to share?

E.A. Midnight: I have several projects that I am working on at the moment (because for me it is really helpful to not stay stagnant in only one project, having many options creates many paths), but the one I am most excited about these days is this hybrid-fiction narrative I am working on called, everything moves. This story pools around a literal flood that encompasses a college campus in Western North Carolina, while following three different characters, one of whom is the water itself. This work seeks to dredge the background of the landscape into the foreground of the narrative, allowing the river and its inhabitants to become participants in telling a story of the ecological and metamorphic change to a deep communal truth about what is real. I love the way fiction appears suddenly in my brain and I just write and write and write and watch the story evolve as I go. I don’t typically story board or plan; I just sit down and see what happens. This one has been really interesting because I alternate between just creating and doing in-depth research into topics, like rare Appalachian mussel species, so there has been a lot of learning along the way. I am looking forward to seeing where it goes.

Tiny Spoon: What book, artwork, music, etc., would you recommend to others?

E.A. Midnight: Just one! That is so hard, but I have been reading a lot of speculative eco fiction and nonfiction lately as research for my fiction narrative, and this one particular book has really resonated with me. It’s called The Second Body by Daisy Hildyard. It is such an interesting and unique look at climate change as the product of one’s two bodies: our every day one and the one that is in a seagull’s stomach or a sperm whale pod’s migration. I really enjoy it. Also, Han Kang’s story “The Fruit of My Woman” is brilliant and incredible in the way it shifts through the fringes of reality.

Tiny Spoon: Is there anything else you would like others to know about you, your creations, or beyond?

E.A. Midnight: I feel like I have talked a lot about me here, but I would like to say to other writers that it is vital that you honor what is in your soul through your writing. Whether what you write is just for you or work that you want to try and submit to presses and magazines, do your best to be your authentic self.

Through the years a lot of people have told me that if I wanted to be published, I needed to stop merging my writing with my art (paintings and photography), “just write poetry” they’d say. I tried, but I couldn’t do it. Some of my work is just text, but a lot of it incorporates other mediums, and that is because it is what the piece or project needs. I don’t think on one level, my brain moves through multiple fields to understand things, and I think a lot of people are like that too. A photograph that merges with text might speak even deeper into a person’s reading of a poem, and that makes it even more powerful. It takes time and research to find the right places to honor your vision, but it’s worth it, because the most important thing you can do for your work is respect what it needs to be.

Tiny Spoon: Where can people learn more about what you do?

E.A. Midnight: I do have a website, www.eamidnight.com, which houses links for and thoughts behind all of my creative work, as well as services (such as editing, photography, and web design) that I offer. I am also on Instagram (@e.a.midnight).

  1. Do you have photographs or images you would like us to share? (Personal portrait, artwork, book covers, etc.?)

Sure! In addition to writing, I love to paint and take photographs on my 35mm camera. I will include one of each here.

This painting I made in college. You can’t tell especially well from this photograph of it, but the canvas is quite large (about three feet wide and five feet tall). I took this abstract painting course, and we tried out all these different techniques to create abstract art and learned what it meant for us. Our final project was to build the frame, stretch the canvas over it, and then paint. This was mine. I forget what I titled it, but I remember thinking about how it was my representation of the relationship between the natural environment and a city; I was thinking very specifically about where I grew up in New York – the quiet beaches and desolate ocean being so close to the loud and polluted city. When I was creating this piece, I listened to a lot of music in my headphones while working on it (particularly Fiona Apple, who I was really into at the time), and that guided my brush strokes (which is cool, now that I think about it, music very much is a guide in my writing, and it is interesting how it has always created this generative space for me). I also played with water (this was done in acrylic, which you don’t typically use water with), to create the drip, wetness patterns on the left side. I enjoyed using the different colors and textures to invoke a feeling of depth and otherness that I so often feel in nature. The heavy dark line at the bottom is symbolic for the incursion of not natural into natural (the black stain of civilization on the environment). This piece took me about three weeks to create, and afterwards I gifted it to my dad.

Here is a 35mm photograph that I took and am rather attached to. I caught this scene on my Minolta back in 2008 when I was living in D.C. It was taken while at a stop light from the passenger seat. I saw the word “MAGIC” spray painted onto that wall and needed to capture it. I knew I couldn’t convince the car’s driver to pull over so I could frame the photo better, so I simply pulled the camera to my face, adjusted the lens, and snapped through the window. I am not sure if it was because of the film or the window, but a glare was caught in the middle of the image. It feels like a ghost. I love this photograph because it’s a great reminder that you can find something special anywhere. Anything can create a spark. I try to look at it every day and remember.

ISSUE 10 {BONUS} FEATURE: BETHANY JARMUL

Our Tiny Issue can only be so big, but our inbox is always full of experimental, inspiring work! These are some of our favorite pieces that made a splash — even if they didn’t make it into the printed edition.

“Let the skeletons out of the closet”

Let the

skeletons

have a

tea party

on your

shins

Let them

tango

over your

toes

Let them

sing

Italian opera

From the

tip of

your nose

So long as

the neighbors

never studied

in Sicily

never

vacationed

in Rome

Bio: Bethany Jarmul is a writer, editor, and artist from Pittsburgh who loves chai lattes, nature walks, and memoirs.

ISSUE 10 {BONUS} FEATURE: ALYSON PEABODY

Our Tiny Issue can only be so big, but our inbox is always full of experimental, inspiring work! These are some of our favorite pieces that made a splash — even if they didn’t make it into the printed edition.

“She came out to herself”

“In the moon laid man, brokenhearted again”

“2020 Year of the Rat”

Bio: Maine denizen Alyson Peabody can be found under the pseudonym Psychorama Mama on Tik Tok, Instagram, and Etsy.

ISSUE 10 {BONUS} FEATURE: LIUXING JOHNSTON

Our Tiny Issue can only be so big, but our inbox is always full of experimental, inspiring work! These are some of our favorite pieces that made a splash — even if they didn’t make it into the printed edition.

“Confession”

“MallRat”

“Tide”

Bio: Liuxing Johnston is a Jersey based cartoonist and the founder of Lemon Liu Press, a small printing company dedicated to telling the stories of butch lesbians of color.

Tiny Talks with Ashley Mezzano

Tiny Talks is an interview series with Tiny Spoon’s talented contributors. This week we spoke with Ashley Mezzano from our tenth issue.

Tiny Spoon: What kindles your creativity?

Ashley Mezzano: I believe creativity is a work in progress. While I certainly look to events in my own life, I also try to incorporate news, pop culture, and conversations into my work as well. Even if the poem doesn’t work out, I get to think about my surroundings in a deeper way, so I think of it as a win-win situation.

Tiny Spoon: Are there any artists/ heroines/ idols/ friends that you look up to?


Ashley Mezzano: As far as poets are concerned, I would love to meet Torrin A. Greathouse in the flesh one day. Her poetry is so raw and focuses on the body and words in a way few can so masterfully capture. She’s taught me so much about my own poetry and perspectives as an artist!

Tiny Spoon: Are there any natural entities that move your work?

Ashley Mezzano: I’ve always been a “nature-minded” person. My undergraduate is in Marine Science and before returning to school or becoming a teacher, I was really lucky to have worked or interned in so many beautiful environments. I still think about my time in Maine, Alaska, and Australia a lot. I credit my experiences for a lot of the natural imagery I invoke from time to time, even if it’s just the more abstract concepts, like rebirth or cycles.

Tiny Spoon: We love insight into the creative process. Could you share what it is like for you, either with your work that appears in Tiny Spoon or in general?

Ashley Mezzano: In Tiny Spoon, my works “Ouroborus is a Woman” and “On Loving Your Wife, The Worm” are both about my experiences with familial love and self love, and how hard it can be to love someone wholly. In “Ouroborus is a Woman,” I compare my past to a carcass and blame my birth for the destruction of my mother’s peace. In “On Loving Your Wife, The Worm,” the worry of destroying love persists, but this time in a relationship between a wife and her husband. While the latter poem ends on a more touching note than the first, both focus on natural imagery that is rather unpoetic, such as vultures picking apart flesh or apple cores thrown haphazardly around a bedroom. My goal with both these pieces was not only to show how messy love can be, but how past experiences and mental illness can warp a person’s sense of self.

Tiny Spoon: Do you have any current or future projects that you are working on that you would like to share?

Ashley Mezzano: I have recently had a chapbook accepted by Beyond The Veil Press titled, “We are Creatures of What Has Happened” for publication. It centers around themes of mental health and recovery. It’s my first chapbook and it will debut later this year!

Tiny Spoon: What book, artwork, music, etc., would you recommend to others?

Ashley Mezzano: Oh goodness. Since I brought up Torrin A. Greathouse earlier, I’ll deviate away from poetry and talk about longer forms of literature for this question. I love generational stories and stories that feel like epics. I’d easily recommend Pachinko by Min Jin Lee, One Piece by Eiichio Oda, The Vanishing Half by Brit Bennett, and These Ghosts Are Family by Maisy Card to anyone. They may not seem like they all share similarities, but all of them focus somewhat on circumstance, legacy, and generational relationships.

Tiny Spoon: Is there anything else you would like others to know about you, your creations, or beyond?

Ashley Mezzano: I’m incredibly touched by anyone who has read my work and found meaning in it. I’m still very early in the publication stage of my writing career, and every person who finds me feels so special because I know how many great writers are already out there. Thank you for spending your time with my words. I hope I can continue to meet your expectations.

Tiny Spoon: Where can people learn more about what you do?

Ashley Mezzano: Please follow me on:

Twitter      –  @ashley_mezzano

Instagram –  @waytogomezzano

Chillsubs  – https://www.chillsubs.com/user/ashley_mezzano